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Enough is Enough - Part 4
October 9, 2008 |
So far we’ve covered the kids’ and their parents’ role in the behavior issues at West Central Valley. Today we move our focus to the administration. From the principal to the coaches, from the teachers to the lunch ladies, everyone plays a part.
West Central Valley has a Good Conduct Policy that all extracurricular participants must sign before they are allowed to play/sing/act/etc. It states that participation in school activities is a privilege. It also states that participants are “to be held in higher standards of conduct.” They must “display appropriate behavior, and conduct themselves in an exemplary manner.” Why is it that this policy is rarely or only partially enforced? What is the point of making the kids sign it if the punishments are not real and concrete?
First Offense:
Individuals committing a first violation of the Good Conduct Policy will be ineligible for participation in extra curricular activities for four consecutive weeks.
How often have you seen this actually enforced? More likely you get a new interpretation of what constitutes a violation. Calling a school employee a “fucking bitch” and a “cunt” seems pretty concrete though. That doesn’t fit the description of appropriate or exemplary.
Here’s an idea: Make the punishments public. Announce them over the intercom with the lunch menu for the day. Take away the massive gray area and enforce the punishments as they are listed.
Teachers, coaches, all school employees: You are the authority. Don’t forget that.
Administration: Show your employees that you support them and you won’t let the students get away with verbal and physical abuse.
It’s clear that this behavior problem will not go away over night. To use one commenters word, this problem has been festering for some time. But without a doubt, unless the kids, parents and administration all make changes we will continue to find ourselves in the same rut making little progress. It’s no one group’s fault alone, but that doesn’t allow any party to shuck the responsibility of saying enough is enough.
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More power to you Nate for “enough is enough”. No matter what people think about anyone.. their opinion wont change after reading “some blog!” I think that if some teenage kid — hates on his teachers… they will hate them through out high school and vise versa with a teacher… all teachers- No matter what teacher, principal. . aide… They all have favorites. I just think all the comments on all of these blogs - got very out of hand. After reading all these blogs - I have NO IDEA what Kyle did, or what even happened… or when it happened…But wasnt he voted by his peers to be homecoming king? He must have a lot of friends, must not treat to many people trashy. . .I dont know much about either party - Kyle or Teacher. . I just wish people wouldnt jump to conclusions all the time. . . this is how drama starts.
Kyle heard of this blog yesterday and was very upset when he posted his comment. He apologized to me for using the f word as that takes away from his message (which I have not read. I have never been on here before and do not plan to start now)… his message was “Grow up people! You are the adults.” He could not believe this blog existed and all of the crap on it. Kyle has been punished enough for what started out as an unintentional minor incident. If you believe everything you read or hear, get a life. Get off the computer and go do something productive. Thank you to my husband, Tim, for supporting Kyle and everybody else who actually KNOW Kyle and myself.
Well said Anne! It seems that this has become a very large tall tale!
Anne, your Kid ia a jerk
okay first of all, your all assholes. you need to leave the whole kyle thing alone because none of you actually know what happened so until you do, keep your little fucking mouths shut. secondly, the whole max thing isnt that big of a deal. everyone gets mad at some point or another when they didnt make the play they wanted. and he didnt throw his helmet, jennings did. max slammed his helmet into the ground which any highschool kid would do on the sidelines of a football game if they messed up. its not that big of a deal. its football, your suppose to be rough and get pissed, its not a fucking tennis match. they should have put him in on defense so he could take his anger out on the other team.
ok so kyle is sa fuckin pimp and idc what any of you say about him he is a good hearted kid and has good intentions so back the fuck off. and maybe the reason he called her a cunt is because she actually is one. That is all i have to say about this situation so good bye to all of you immature people.
To respond to 8:28….
This is part of the problem right here. “it isnt that big of deal, its football, your suppose to be rough and get pissed”
The problem is, this isn’t just a football game that this happens. It is basketball, baseball, rec leagues, spectators, coaches…..This isn’t just about one kid getting trouble at school or one action at one football game.
What has happened as that peoples acceptance level has changed, you accept that kids act this way, parents act this way, administration acts this way. You know what? it is time to say this is not acceptable and change the level of expecations. If you think for one minute that this kind of behavior is practiced and accepted in other school districts, other athletic teams….think again! Not all of them act this way….fromt he kids, the parents, the coaches, and the administration. Not only do these kids need to be taught the rules and fundamentals of the game, but they need to be taught life lessons of respect, rules, and consequences for actions and it needs to be consistent….not singled out because of history of family members….or not singled out because your family is considered more “prominent” than other. This needs to come from all areas….family, teachers, administration. But, WCV has lowered their expectations and have accepted this behavior. Until someone breaks the cycle with higher expectations and lower acceptance for these types of actions, then the cycle keeps going.
What are each of you going to do…whether you are a student reading this, a parent reading this, a teacher reading this, a member of the adminstration reading this, or a communitity member reading this….
What are you going to do to stop the cycle?
WOW!!! Half the peple that write in this stupid forum dont even know what really happens at all. And id like to thank all the people talking trash about our students, players, and school district because us students are reading all these blogs and know that you guys are supporting us…NOT So come on if your grown up to gossip about these isssues then you should be grown up to post your name.
who exactly do you mean when you say kids? because as im aware, its not all the KIDS in the district. What about the girls? You never hear anything about them because disrespectful. SO STOP SAYING ALL KIDS.
You guys are adults, ACT LIKE IT. don’t you know now that everyone is aware of this website,we’re all getting uptight. you’re ruining our district and soon enough you arent going to have many kids wanting to play sports for this school. grow up, please. arent we suppose to be looking up to you?!
the girls are just as much to blame as the guys so whoever wrote that last blog dont blame it all on the guys
i wasn’t blaming it all on the guys, Butcher #51, that was exactly my point!!
i think that if you have nothing better to do besides sit on the computer and bash on 17 and 18 year old kids then you need to grow the fuck up. wow how good do you have to feel after making fun of a bunch of high school kids?? and i agree with my boi TJ that you all are fake ass people that have nothing else to do besides sit her and diss on kids. grow up and act your age. and max didnt throw his helmet, jennings threw it about 20 yards down the field and i dont blame max for being mad at himself for messing up on a play because every kid does that, some just show it differently. and if you guys really think that taking max tanner and kyle out of the game is going to help us win, then im going to laugh when we get our asses stomped every game.
Im glad that all these people are bashing on our football players/students. It makes me happy on the inside knowing what you guys really think of us as a football group and as individuals.
and by the way the miller family has always been supportive to every kid in every sport so leave the miller family alone and worry about your own.
I agree with steve because after every game Karla has told me that we did a good job and to keep our heads up so who ever keeps saying stuff about the millers should just keep their ridiculous statements to them selves
Anne you rule thats my opinion on that
And at least Anne is parent enough to say her name on here and all you other fake people have to stay anonymous.
I LOVE APPLES!!
I love Stuart and all this drama people create to have some life and just maybe get some sort of attention.. maybe someone(s) should grow up not naming names since i dont know who anonymous is…
maybe if you adults have a problem with the football team. You shouldnt go to the game.
dont run your mouth about things you dont know about. in so ways us kids are probably more mature then you adults are acting stop going around running your mouth about kids at least us kids can say something to each others faces when we have a problem unlike you adults who are too scared and havta resort to anonymous on this gay ass website
PEACE LOVE COMMUNITY!!!
We all just need to make love..not war
i like how you “adults” are giving everyone at high school something to talk about :]
Me too thanks for letting us pass the time and make fun of the ridiculous and outrageous things you say
enough is enough. nate, maybe you should consider writing and enforcing a code of conduct for this blog. perhaps you could include:no name calling. no profanity, no false accusations or negative comments. you may lose some of your current bloggers but i think you might gain alot more. good people who do care about our kids, our town and our country.
then maybe a code of conduct for your bar. maybe no parents of school age children allowed in on school nights, they could stay home and help their kids with their homework.disagreements at your bar are solved by bloody fights and name calling, with much profanity. these are adults behaving badly.
there are alot of things that could promote good citizens but this blog is not one of them.
Many of you won’t know me but I also want to voice my OPINION. This is the first blog I have ever written and will most likely be the last. I want to commend everyone on here who has the courage to post their name and stand by their opinion.
My husband and I moved here two years ago because we felt it was a wonderful community to raise our children, have a nice house and we love our neighbors. Our 22 month old son attends an at home daycare and we couldn’t be more happy because our provider is so wonderful. I am a proud member of chapter BQ with PEO and we are trying very hard to become more active in the community. We have been very happy here in Stuart! My father was born and raised in Menlo, my grandmother spent 97 years of her life here and even worked for the school as a cook. Obviously our son isn’t old enough to attend school so I don’t have a clue about anything that is going on and I chose not to. It’s not my place. What I do know is that we choose to move to a small town- we were both born and raised in small towns not far from Stuart. So we knew when we moved here there would be unnecessary drama and rumors and we consciously make the decision not to partake in them because it’s not our business.
Listen I will be the first to tell you I am not perfect and I have made so many mistakes in my life but it was the people around me that after those mistakes that were the difference makers - My parents, teachers, community members all ‘not’ giving up on me and helping me. I am pretty sure we have all made mistakes and done things we weren’t proud of but it’s what comes after that time that means the most. From high school to college to the ‘real world’ my views and outlooks on life have changed and grown with me. My life experiences good, bad and the ugly have all made me the person I am today. Without those life experiences and mistakes in life I wouldn’t know the difference between right and wrong and how much one person an impact the lives of many. It truly only takes one person to either bring a person up or down. I have been fortunate enough to be able to study, travel and work around the world – something many people can’t say. Does that make me better than others absolutely not but it has been an eye opening experience for me to see how truly blessed I am.
My college roommate was studying to be a teacher and I couldn’t respect her more for that because I knew what she was going to go thru but she had the passion, belief and patience it took to know she could make a difference and those are the kinds of teachers we need. I went to college with 3 wonderful women from WCV who are all now teachers and two in the WCV school district and I am so proud of them. Obviously this is a great community because they weren’t scared or afraid to go spend 4 years of their lives to becoming teachers and moving back to work for WCV.
I am sure many of you are wondering what my point is so here you go… “We, the adults of the community, lead by example and our attitude reflects our leadership within the community”. I am sick to my stomach to see all this finger pointing and blaming and living in the past. The real question is what are WE going to do now. I understand that I don’t have any children in the WCV school system but that doesn’t mean I can’t help because I am a member of this community. Unfortunately as a society we focus so much attention on all the negative things and not as much on the positives. Let’s start focusing on the strengths of these individual young adults. They aren’t perfect they are going to make mistakes and do stupid stuff (like WE did) and we have to be there on the other side of the situation to HELP them and BE there for them and show them how to handle these situations as mature adults. Obviously, this blog is now affecting these young adults – our actions and words are hurting them! They should be focusing their energy on being young adults and not on grown-ups idle gossip.
Our community and school system have been thru so much over the last few years … I did my research before moving here. But we see all the great things there are to offer in Stuart for our family. So, now that our community and young adults are crying out for help we need to fix this. Obviously this is more than one situation. These issues have been building up and unfortunately one kid and one family are taking all the blame. Stop it … We are all to blame. We are to blame if we turn a blind eye or if we don’t.
So, what I hear from the adults is that we want these young adults to be better people so let’s show them. Let’s get in and do some school and community service with them hand and hand together. You want to show them compassion and caring for others…have them call me. I will be happy to take them with me to serve the homeless meals, help with Habitat for Humanity, or spend time with children at the Boys and Girls Clubs of Central Iowa. There are so many less fortunate people around us every day that just need a little help so let’s start leading by example. Please take a minute to remember what it was like. High school is one of the hardest times in life. You are challenged to be an adult but still want to kid. They have enough drama in their day to day lives - as adults let’s not add to that.
I just want to leave by asking the question… How many of you congratulate these young adults for their accomplishments in the classrooms, off the fields, in the jobs outside of school or in their extracurricular activities? Many of them focus all their energy on making their parents, peers and community proud of their efforts. If we don’t start focusing on their strengths and only focusing our attention on their weaknesses how are they going to become better people when they only get attention for their faults and mistakes?
Let’s start leading…
it’s not always the students fault. i remember hearing about Anna Love having a book thrown at her by a teacher. what does that show?
let’s not bring anymore kids into this.
She probably deserved it.
Put your name on here and I’ll throw a book at you next time I see you, sounds like you deserve it.
first of all you parents need to deal with your own lives and stop gossiping about high schoolers. its not only kids fault here the teachers have a graet deal to do with there actions. and there is not one kid that ever deservs to have a book thrown at them.
It sounds like this subject should be taken off the blog. It is getting ugly.
Good luck Cats with you game tonight. I am sure you can do a great job and come home with a win.
We have some very good talent on the team and they can do awesome as a team.
I guess the seniors who are doing the comments and useing that kind of language are the ones they think we are suppose to respect? What is it? They are so stupid to actually say that stuff and expect us to cheer for them? We have some real nice boys on the team that can easily replace them and they are our future!!! Come on Jennings dont stand for that!!!
I say get rid of them now before they ruin our younger boys.I was thinking maybe T.J might be ok until that little outburst. Sure stick up for your team but you better know what you are talking about. And yes Max hit hit $250 helmet on the ground over and over. He throws fits in every sport. He is a very angry kid and so is kyle. I will agree that Karla does support all the kids and she does her best to control her 3 sons, but its impossable to do! They are already how they are going to be. The dad is verbally abusive to the coaches and his kids. he is always drunk and negative. and by the way Jennings threw the helmet because Max kept throwing fits and bruce would not shut up. jennings needs to throw him out and stick with it. bruce always sneaks back in. the younger son Sam is like a bomb ready to burst. I would actually be afraid of what he could do. he looks evil and I think we have a big problem brewing with him.Maybe Ann needs to get with Bruce and do all their little habits together.She’s probably ready to switch guys again. Oh poor Kyle I just feel so bad for that kid Yadda Yadda Yadda
I thin that you should all grow the fuck up and act like adults and stop saying shit about the millers, Tanner, and kyle and his mom if you really have something to say you should be grown up enough to say it to thier faces. You are all low life pieces of shit that probably still live your parents houses.
helmets arent 250$ dip shit…they’re 140$… And jennings should have handled the situatuion much differently, he should have never thrown that helmet… thats not setting a good example is it? NO! if the coach can throw a helmet then why the hell cant his players? thats why ed jennings is not a good coach nor AD. he doesnt do either job well.
Isn’t it like Parenting 101 to condemn the behavior, but not condemn the child? I’m not really surprised, but it’s always awful to hear the “adults” take off on youngsters with profanity etc. It sounds like the boys’ behavior in each instance was not appropriate; it sounds like they have been held accountable and punished. So, at what point does bashing their families become part of a solution? How, as an adult, do you deal with a teenager by acting like a teenager yourself? If you are so concerned about the youth in your community, why don’t you step forward and take a leadership role in their lives? Coach a sport, lead a Scout troop, volunteer your time in some capacity in which you can be a positive role model?
Oh…that probably sounds a bit too much like “work”….much more fun to anonymously work out your unresolved teen angst in the blogosphere.
I have heard so many good comments about he job Jennings has done as Athletic Director as far as scheduling is concerned. He has done great with that. So, I think you need to give praise where it is credited.
From what I have read, I think any coach would have had problems controlling some of the actions of the kids here.
Maybe he is not as bad as it seems.
there is no role models from ur adults on here post your name so we can talk
alec b is more of a role model than u adults.
LOVE U ALEC
Based on the blog entries I have read, there is something WCV needs to focus on, even more than the behavior of its students: it’s called a grammar and English class.
OH MY GOSH! look at all of you, this has gone way too far! this is getting way too personal. i’m ashamed to live in a community that can say these things about other peoples families. this is making us all look bad.
nate, i bet your getting off on all this drama that has been created by this, arent ya?
btw, anna love is an awesome person, a teacher does not have the right to throw a book at them.
Well first let me say that by looking at the times WCV has not blocked the blogging going on at school. Second I am saddened that our students have stooped to the level of swearing to make themselves sounds more adult. It does not. Alec I commend you for not swearing in your responses. This is a community issue. We all need to take a look at how we are being role models for the students and children. It should not be win win win. Karla is always supportive. Bruce has volunteered hours to our students. He continues to even though his sons are in high school. He is still helping coach younger football players. Walk in their shoes before you judge. If you’ve been a coach you know what our coaches go through. If you haven’t try it out. Volunteer to coach little league or kids football or wrestling. See how you like being yelled at. Jake Lawson tried it, and it made him feel bad for when he was an athletic and didn’t treat his coaches with respect. Jake learned a valuable lesson about coaching jr. He knew he was making a positive impact on his young wrestlers. Did anyone thank him? One of the best coaches at jr was Mr. Hammond. Now he has been black balled by Mr. Ridout. He yelled he got mad, but he knew how to coach. It isn’t too late to help Max with his temper and Tanner with sportsmanship. Yes they can get mad but they need to know how to control that. People stop judging and become a role model. I am going to the game tonight to cheer on my team my WCV boys. I’m going to cheer along with the cheerleaders. I am proud to live in this community. Nate you must be too or why did you come back? Stop this now!
go volleyball team!!
I’m not so sure about Mr. Hammond. He is a very negative person.
Dave is a very negative person, especially for a churchy,churchy guy.
shut the blog down nate. take a little breather.
Check out this weeks’s Dallas Co. News with the letter to the editor. Subject matter is Arnold, bussing & salary, it was not from anyone local either. You might not be able to read it on their site? Was it in the Herald? Very interesting!
I know i have class since i was raised up right.
And first off you lame adults need to grow up since im winning the race of maturity against you. ouch sad!
and why dont you back off our football team and actually support us instead of trying to tear us down? good idea in my mind.. Seriously grow up find something else to complain about since your lives suck that bad honestly people grow up
Sincerely Alec
Oh yea thanks to all who didnt come to the game since the stands were half empty
THanks to the millers for cheering!
My son showed this webstie and it is very alarming and distrubing! This website needs to be taken off…it is doing nothing but causing more problems and issues for everyone! Get rid of it!
Whomever did this - did you get your kicks out of seeing what turmoil you bring to everyone and every community? Bet you didn’t think of that! What a wonderful sounding board? No it is not.
Do you honestly think this is helping anyone? No it is not and it is in extremely bad taste!
For those Senior Parents and I am one of those - we all are proud of each and everyone one of our children. For the person, child or parent who picked apart the Senior Football Players - you should be ASHAMED of yourself!
I am very proud mom of my Senior Son - he is a true leader. He has shown me what he has submitted, and he has done it with PRIDE, TACT and LEADERSHIP!
And guess what - these young adults that everyone is being so negative and cruel to will be our leaders of tomorrow and the future! Just remember that!
To Anne - whatever happens, whatever horrible comments are made, stand your ground and HOLD YOUR HEAD UP HIGH be proud of him…he is your son.
For those who don’t have children - don’t speak another nasty, horrible or cruel word about another person’s child unless you have one of your own and one you have raised.. Then you will be able to comment and speak your mind but until then….please keep your comments to yourself!
Again, please remove this website!
Agreed….Enough IS Enough. It is time to begin the process of moving forward.
Blame the kids(young adults), that is what happens time and time again. Kids learn from parents and those adults that are around them everyday, they feed off adult behavior. When you point the finger three point back at yourself. All I can say is (young adults)look at this as a learning experience and prove them all wrong. I tip my hat to those who have stood up for what they belive is right. Yes some times your wrong and right but you have the God giving right to voice your beliefs. The cursing thing happens, when I was younger and still to this day my parents curse. Adults all do that is where I learned, next time use you ENGLISH skills and beat them with educated words. I could care less about cursing but some do, I guess those people have never cursed in their life.LOL. I am proud to be a part of WCV and I am proud of all you that practice everyday, to walk out at game time and play your hearts out. I did it and my sons and daughters will do the same. Just play, but know that at least one set of eyes will be watching with pride and dedication. Failure is something that you all will experience, stand up to it, and smash everyone else who preys upon it. GO CATS!!!!!
A learning experience. I have heard those words many times. Mistakes are how most of us learn. The key is to LEARN from them and not make the same mistakes again. I went and watched our WCV Wildcats play Panorama tonite and enjoyed what I saw and heard. I saw the kids playing hard, giving it their all and I heard the fans cheering them on…no matter what happened. They didn’t win as far as the score, but really after all that has happened and all that has been said they performed like winners. Our young men are still trying to learn HOW to win by the score because we are a young, growing football program. They certainly heard and felt the positive support from the stands tonite and more than likely they were disappointed that they couldn’t quite pull it out. Over all I would have to say it was a step in the right direction for everyone. Moving forward & learning from it all.
(The Stuart Way)…..
Shake with one hand smiling ear to ear while cutting you down the minute your back is turned. 1600 good eggs should have in small print below “Most of whom will lie, stab you in the back, care for nothing except themselves and enjoy doing it. I hope you all are proud, I wonder what those who don’t live in the WCV community think of us now? Great job everyone.
Excellent game last night!
Last night’s game was great. They may not have had the win but they played like winners and it was a good game.
Yes, coaching is a difficult job. You not only have to deal with bad attitudes from some of the atheletes, but also with complaining parents and an administration that won’t support you. There are also many rewards. Seeing that you have made a difference in the way a kid thinks about himself. Being a father figure to a kid that doesn’t have one. Seeing improvement in their atheletic ability and or attitude. It’s a great priviledge and responsibility to be a mentor and a possitive influence on the kids that you coach. We, as coaches and teachers need to take our responsibility seriously. I also want to say, Way to go Ms Salizar and WCV Volleyball girls. This is one example of how a coach/teacher has had a possitive affect on her kids.
Thank You Anne Cline-Greenwalt for your post! I hope the anonymous people of this blog did not skip or skim over her post. Seems to be a few have already….
Personally, anyone who doesnt have the balls to put their name on their post is not even worth listening to. If you want to write something put your name on it so you can be held accountable for what you say.
The reason that we have bad attitudes is because almost anything the fans say towards us is negative.
The seniors aren’t bad kids, no one is perfect, they teach me more most days than the coaches do. They motivate the team before games and during practice. If anyone wants to talk negatively towards us then at least have the balls to put your name on the post.
Hey Dylan M. I was just wondering if it was legal for you and brian ellis to be all the way to subway on Friday at noon? I thought no farther than the tracks. Does Mrs.W. Know?
Some of you want this to just be dropped. But Im telling you in all examples none of this would have happened if 1. parents should have cracked down along time ago and 2. In Max’s case Mrs. Wilson and Mr. Arnold was standining right there. They could have followed proper procedure right then. but they NEVER DO! Just read the code of ethics again. She just keeps smieling and never acts like there is a thing wrong. ok in kyles case , Mrs. Wilson again bigtime!She didnt handle it so it escalated to the point that kyle lost control and he’s the type of kid thats had a hard life and cant handle some stuff. He has bad chromosomes and put that all together and you get a VERY BAD SCENE! ALL PARENT, STAFF, AND BAD STUDENT. This all includes Pease too. Never been held accounatable for his own actions.We just have to hope basketball will be different.
Oh my gosh! He went to Subway for lunch?! Yeah, that’s obviously the problem here. Grow up.
You guys really need to stop talking shit about people…
its getting a bit out of control.
if you ask me nate’s the one to blame..
he’s the one that started all this drama…maybe because he has no life and wants to screw others up.
nice one loser.
Nate started this because avidently kyle called his mom a bitch and possibly a cunt. Don’t get mad at him. Im glad eveyone has been stating their opinions on how the high schoolers need to show more class and respect, maybe this blog will help that.
I have been to every game this year. The boys, young men, play their hearts out. It is a young team as there are only 6 seniors on the team. And it will get better as time goes on. But they need the backing and support of all the community and parents. They need to see the stands full of yelling people. I, too, wish they could control their tempers better but there are times that I can’t even do that tackfully, and I have age on them.
I also know that people should make sure their own backdoor step is clean before they start cleaning others steps. And I agree, if you can talk trash on the blog, you should be big enough to sign your name.
Granted, this young people are our future leaders, but we can thank ourselves for how they have turned out. They learn by watching us all their lives. Kids are what they see!!!!
Mrs. Wilson does’nt want to lower herself to write anything in this blog. Also she would get caught red handed in a lie. she knows she handled all this wrong.I bet she almost knew Kyle would escalate to the point he did. She probabaly was smirking inside. Same with Max and Tanner.Joanie has more class than Mrs. W anytime ever. She (Joanie) always treats the kids with respect if they deserve it.
This is an easy problem to solve. The students signed the “Good Conduct Policy”, if they didn’t obey it then discipline them accordingly.
The school district is the biggest pushover around. Ha!
Burton White from Harvard U. says;
The way parents teach and rear their children even in the earliest years is critical to the children’s development throughout life. That means that your children’s education doesn’t begin when you send them off to kindergarten. It begins in the home with you as teachers. No amount of formal teaching can compare to the influence of parents, who teach every day by word and example. If a family does its job well, the professional teacher can then provide effective training. If not, there may be little a professional can do.
Ok. Here’s my two cents for what it’s worth… which is probably nothing. I’m basing this on what I know and what I’ve heard.
1. If you adults say you have never disrespected or hated on a teacher when you were in school then you are a liar. I’m a teacher myself but I can name several that I had growing up that I thought were total pricks. My mother grew up and went to Stuart school and she can still remember the songs that the student body made up about the admin. She is the sweetest person ever and the fact that SHE knows them even shocked me so see, everyone has disliked a teacher. This isn’t the first time it has happened and it won’t be the last. The only difference between then and now is that the teacher’s… whoops, I mean para’s son has a blog and has chosen to broadcast this one incident by a student. It’s pathetic especially since I’m sure Nate has hated on teachers too. Nate, you are a hypocrite and I can’t believe you started this bash fest on KIDS!
2. I teach in a different district but feelings amongst students and teachers don’t differ. Students dislike teachers and teachers dislike students. The only difference is that the teachers talk and gossip about the kids behind their backs so they don’t get caught. Go into the break room or office during the day and your ears would burn. I know it’s the same here in WCV high school.
3. Even though I don’t teach at WCV, I have family here and attend as many WCV sporting events that I can. All I can say is parents and spectators, you have no right to criticize someone about name calling. Sitting in the bleachers at games is quite the learning experience. It’s amazing how many adults are in the stands ragging on the players. “Fucking —-. I can’t believe he/she’s playing. He/she can’t play for shit.” or “That kid is such a loser. See how he/she dresses.” Well, then get your ass out there and play. If it so easy or you are so better then those KIDS, then prove it.
4. Has anyone considered the student’s point of view and that maybe he isn’t the attacker here? Para’s tend to get a power complex and maybe Joanie was in the midst of one. Everyone has a limit and maybe this kid was pushed past his. If the student body voted him homecoming king, then there’s a reason for that. If he’s such a little jerk, do you think he would have won? From an outsider looking in, it sounds like there’s more to this story. I’m giving him, and the other students everyone is trashing, the benefit of the doubt.
5. Nate, if enough is enough, then why are you dragging it on and on and on? If you want all this crap to stop, then take the initiative and stop posting about it. You are aggravating the situation.
6. To all the students brave enough to post your names - Kyle, T.J., Steven, Mike, Alec, Dylan (sorry to those I missed) - good for you. Just because some random person that posts negatively about you and your friends believes you don’t meet their standards of being a “good person” doesn’t mean you are bad or trouble. I’d actually take it as a complement if these people don’t like you because it’s obvious that they have no clue. By posting on here and hating on you, they are making themselves hypocrites. Their beliefs of being good and respectful are obviously not something you would want. You all have good things about you. Keep sticking up for yourselves. Keep sticking up for your friends. You know the true story. Prove them all wrong.
Like so many who have posted before you, you’re missing the point here. This is bigger than one incident. It’s bigger than one student, or one football team, or one teacher, or one para educator. Everyone deserves some of the blame from top to bottom. That’s why there’s a separate post about the students. That’s why there’s a separate post about the parents. That’s why there’s a separate post about the administration. We all shoulder responsibility on this one.
And I did stop posting about it. On Thursday.
no, nate shut it down. if you are not happy about the schools’ policies or procedures, you can do a few things. one, talk to the administrator or teacher in question. two, speak publicly at a school board meeting,or simply contact a director privetely. or three run for school board yourself.
Thank you too whoever made that post at 7:43. You people who think you know everything don’t know each person you have been bashing individually. All you know is the bad things that happen and turn into gossip or the things you see at football games when everyone’s emotions are on high, its easy to lose control and not think about what you are doing. We may have attitude problems at times but talking negatively towards us isn’t making it better. In reality, it is probably making it worse, so thinks for all the help that you aren’t giving.
Yes, I believe he’s a little jerk!
the reason why the students disrespect ms westre is because she disrespects the students. she acts more like a high schooler than anyone there. and she holds grudges. if she doesn’t like your boyfriend, she won’t like you. if she does like you, then you get to cuss, talk inappropriately, and do whatever you want. if she doesn’t like you, she decides to use her “authority” against you. bullshit.
maybe she doesn’t like you and your boyfriend because youre both douchebags
No one likes to hear negative comments about their families - that is why you’ve heard from many parents of students who are being bashed, and that’s also why you heard from Nate. The incidents that have occurred should make you think, when do we stop saying “Oh, that behavior is ok because he/she is in high school” and start saying, “No, that’s not ok.” It’s not about pointing fingers, and it’s not about throwing families under the bus. No one is perfect, and if what I said earlier offended anybody, I’m very sorry - but I was very angry about what happened. I hope I’m not the last person to apologize. People too soon forget what working in a school atmosphere can be like - like many jobs, it can be stressful. Sure, we’ve all “hated” teachers and talked badly about them - but does that give us the right to call them horrible names in public? I myself don’t have what it takes to teach high school. I commend everyone who works in education, as well as parents of these students who attend our schools and supporters of the community. We often times to get or give the respect we deserve.
As far as sports go, I have never been an athlete and I’ll be the first to admit that I spent many a game sitting on the bench (with my warm-up still on - yes, not an athlete). Fifteen seconds in a game was good for me… athletes work hard to get where they are, but once they’re on the field or on the court they need to show off that hard work. Fans should be proud of both wins and losses.
Go back to the original posts and see what Nate’s goal was. This is far from it.
Sorry for the looooong post, but like I said, no one likes to hear bad comments about their families. For those of you who don’t like my mom, I like her so I guess that’s what counts. She’s not going to do anything that would jeopardize her job because of our family situation right now. You can’t always blame a teacher, you can’t always blame a parent, you can’t always blame a student, you can’t always blame a family, and you can’t always blame Mrs. Westre.
i think the football team is doing a great job. good luck boys hope u have a good rest of the season.
James Lee Gulbranson is a P.I.M.P.
6:29 is on drugs
NO… He is a pimp
whats your problem with jimmy?
He’s one of those kids who thinks he knows everything and is an all star athlete but in reality he isn’t that smart and shouldn’t be put into the athlete category.
Thats not jimmy at all. He doesnt think he knows everything0 and he knows he isnt an all star. i think u are talking about Brian Ellis.
They both are like that.
is BAHA the same person i was talking to?
im just gonna go ahead and say that everyone who keeps leaving there posts anonymous are accomplishing nothing. how can you expect anyone else to read and listen to something from an unknown source that may or may not be credible. if wont even stand up for stating your own opinion why should we care? and honestly i dont think this site is made to just try to insult the families of everyone in our community. you claim that our teams sportsmenship makes us look bad and then you get on this site and slander everyone in town and dont have the courage to put your name on it. grow up people
Hey Zach I think Nate needs to start a blog on your MOMMA. Shut your face u little DRUG HEAD!
Nate has the power to remove any one of the posts on this site. It’s his discretion to leave them up for all to see. You decide who’s sirring this pot!
I agree 100% with what Zach Lamb said. Good choice of words my friend.
I think Nate is doing the right thing. He is getting everybody worked up I remeber a few years ago when STUART had another actually 2 other blogs that always got shit stirred,anyway what does Nate have to lose?
How is Nate doing the right thing??
He is getting everyone mad at each other just because some high school kid called his mom a name. What ever happened to the sticks and stones sayiing?
Hey Anonymous on October 13, 2008 8:23 pm: you obviously don’t know Zac so shut the f*ck up. He’s a good kid.
The only thing Nate is accomplishing is that he’s putting a huge target on his mother’s back. You really think kids and parents are going to just sit back and let themselves, their family, or their friends be publicly trashed for one stupid thing? No, especially when Nate’s allowed it to get so out of hand. Plus, this is insanely unprofessional on Joanie’s part. A teacher, para, secretary, etc. that works with children has NO RIGHT to make a student a target of hate. It’s a violation of that student’s privacy. She never should have run crying to Nate and Nate should never have publicized it. If she were a true professional, she would have kept it in the confines of the school because it’s no one else’s business.
If Joanie can’t handle working with the high school kids, then she needs a different job. If I were part of the admin, I’d seriously reconsider renewing her contract for next year.
ok we can all stop blaming nate for this. he didnt make this site for this. this is just something on it. and why is it his fault everyone feels the need to make an ass of themselves online?
Maybe all of you should worry a little less about football and a little more about academics.
Seems your JV team had to cancel their game last night because of too many ineligible players. In other words they are flunking their classes.
This is pointless. You guys are talking bad about our seniors on something when they almost have no chance to defend themselves. None of you guys are going to change your mind on how you feel because of something us high-schoolers say. They have been playing for four years, why are you just now saying something? You are basing all of your opinions on things you see, not things that you understand the reasons behind. Everybody has had a moment where they lose control and do something stupid. You guys are just hypocritical and clueless. The seniors are good kids and right now I would rather have them as the seniors than listen to a word from 95% of the people who have said a word on this blog.
The JV game was called off because of the rain.
JV was rain. Actually very few students are ineligle this year. Would everyone just quit
Exactly, we only have one player ineligible for this year. So make sure you get the facts right before you say something.
I agree, it would be better to concentrate on academics rather then sports. Maybe then in 10 years time they will be productive citizens and not living in their parents basement.
AND HER SON IS A FAGGOT!!!!!
i think if we only have one ineligible player out of 30 some then we are concentrating enough on academics
I seems to me that we have people from other towns on this web-site. your JV was cancelled because of acedemics? Our community needs to stick together or all the other anounyous e-mailers will rip us apart. I’m sure that is a parent that enrolls their kids to other schools and for that, good ridence, we don’t need you here anyways. Go Cats
i agree with the last post. People from other towns are loving this. Do I wish i was an Earlham Cardinal, no. How about an Adair-Casey bomber playing 8 man football? I think that we should stop all the b-tching at each other and work to stop the bleeding. Think about it.
Are we forgetting the problem? Our seniors!The danger! The abuse!Im reall not trying to milk a problem dry, but there has to be a stopping point when we all get together and say ok when did this all start start happenning? Wnen did our youth start acting like this? did I do this? Did my kids do this without knowining it? Did my daughter threaten a teacher? I didnt have sons, but that doesnt matter. From the sounds of it its comining from all sexes! Im sick! And it sounds like this is our fault! if you laugh at this comment then you have no kids
I agree with the last to bloggers. Outsiders are getting a big bang out of reading all the disgraceful things about students, families, facility, etc. on this blog. Really, don’t you think enough is enough!!
The seniors are all basically good men and women. They have rather foul mouths but then look what they have been raised with from the families and public as well. We all need to use the Dawn dish soap for something other than doing dishes. Worked with my kids when they were young and to this day they don’t talk like that in front of me and I know they do to their friends.
The football men play a good hard game, sometimes making mistakes that are obvious to the fans sitting in the stands and I know they know they have messed up as soon as they do it. They take out their frustrutations in sometimes unethical ways re: throwing helmets, swearing, etc. but that is better than hitting some other kid or driving like a maniac after the game and maybe killing someone that you or I love. Give them a break and congragulate them on the good game they played and overlook the frustrations.
GO CATS!!! and keep doing your best.
I agree with the last to bloggers. Outsiders are getting a big bang out of reading all the disgraceful things about students, families, facility, etc. on this blog. Really, don’t you think enough is enough!!
The seniors are all basically good men and women. They have rather foul mouths but then look what they have been raised with from the families and public as well. We all need to use the Dawn dish soap for something other than doing dishes. Worked with my kids when they were young and to this day they don’t talk like that in front of me and I know they do to their friends.
The football men play a good hard game, sometimes making mistakes that are obvious to the fans sitting in the stands and I know they know they have messed up as soon as they do it. They take out their frustrutations in sometimes unethical ways re: throwing helmets, swearing, etc. but that is better than hitting some other kid or driving like a maniac after the game and maybe killing someone that you or I love. Give them a break and congragulate them on the good game they played and overlook the frustrations.
GO CATS!!! and keep doing your best.
No senior threatened a teacher? get your facts straight and stop trying to stir up trouble. you should have better things to do
Mr.Lamb shut your mouth you think you are all it and you better look at your back yard.
The coaches have always kissed the players asses and that will not change as long as the coaches are the same. I always noticed when I was in high school that the football players never got in any trouble for things that anyone else would have got in trouble for. The coaches are the ones who need to grow up and the principle and the superintendant need to get some balls and suspend the athletes they would anyone else.
I totally agree with anonymous@4:36 if you are out for sports you are all it WRONG I think this school needs to focus on the studies instead of the sports!! I hear that we are the talk of the district all the surrounding towns think we all have a problem with our school and I agree some think since we are getting a new school everything will be fine WRONG again.
i think i am all it? Do you even know me? and what is in my back yard? if you have something you would like to say i would love to hear it.
Zac give up
Zac give up
give up what?
As I remember growing up with Coach Kloewer, you would have not acted like this at all or you wouldn’t be playing. You would be on the bench watching. We have not had a coach since Kloewer left. That is one man that is still respected still today from anyone that had him for a teacher or coach.
What are you guys yelling at Zach for? He is just stating his opinion like everyone else on here. No one else is being told that their opinions don’t matter so why shouldn’t his? Right now he is probably one of the more mature people typing on this website.
Amen 9:08 P.M. The world - and Stuart - would be a much better place if there were more Coach Kloewers out there…
Kloewer was good and did not put up with alot of crap but he had his favorites too.
well dang. lets get kloewer in here then.
Can you name a few of Coach Kloewer’s favorites? I would like to know. He was a great roll model both on the field, in the classroom and off the field. I can’t think of many student athletes that Mr. Kloewer had a great part influencing their life’s standards and morals more than he did. I know, because I had this opportunity for 5 years. I teach, I coach and have had a very successful career. I owe most of it to Mr. Jim Kloewer.
Can you name a few of Coach Kloewer’s favorites? I would like to know. He was a great roll model both on the field, in the classroom and off the field. I can’t think of many student athletes that Mr. Kloewer had a great part influencing their life’s standards and morals more than he did. I know, because I had this opportunity for 5 years. I teach, I coach and have had a very successful career. I owe most of it to Mr. Jim Kloewer.
Why don’t we move onto another subject? I have seen students and famileies drug through the mud with this. Students put their names to the e-mails only to get bashed again. As far as coach Kloewer, I think he was a great coach. Would he have as much athourity now that he did back then. I remember a couple of times him grabbing a player and physically reprimanding him? Do you think a player today would put up with that. He would be involved in a law suit. Times change and so does our would. Like I said before, move on!
I’ve seen Anne Feltner in action as a parent and I’m not talking about Kyle but his little brother. He is a BRAT and his parents think it is cute along with his Grandma Coze. He has all the makings ofbeing just like his older brother. Does anyone else see their pattern??? It’s always someone elses fault.
I’ve seen Anne Feltner in action as a parent and I’m talking about the little brother. He’s a BRAT and mom and dad and grandma Coze think its cute. They always find someone else to blame and little brother will probably grow up to be just like big brother. Not much to look forward too.
I wonder why Arnie is so upset about the union for the drivers and support staff??? Don’t the teachers have a Union??? What wrong Arnie scared are you?????
The crap in the teacher/para educator pool runs pretty deep. It’s pretty bad when you have someone in that capacity setting such a bad example of behavior to inpressionable kids. Maybe that’s part of the reason for open enrollment being so high in this district. Attitude begets attitude. It’s the adult’s responsibility to set the tone. That goes for the Volleyball coach, too. She needs her ass kicked for treating this team so badly in public. so much for positive reinforcement, huh?
What’d Salazar do?
To Anonymous on October 17, 2008 12:53 pm:
Mrs. Salazar is an awesome coach. We won districts last year and are having another awesome season this year.
She is an amazing teacher as well. She teaches you what you need to know but still makes it fun so you don’t lose our focus.
She is doing a great job with the volleyball team and the Spanish department. I guarantee you wouldn’t even make a quarter of the impression she has done for this school, so shut your mouth and stop talking about people like you know everything.
boy dylan you sure got a big mouth
Dylan I’m pretty sure you don’t know SHIT! Did you just get caught cheating in her class…oh and whats this about this merchandise at scheels…hmmm something about Probation….hmmm
Dude seriously….what the heck!
Dylan didnt u get caught stealing from Scheels? So we probably shouldnt listen to your loud, cocky mouth.
Jimmy G. should definantly start varsity baseball! he is a stud! according to him he was the best jv player last year.
Salazar is the one of the best if not the best teacher in the District. She may not be the most friendly of teachers but that is not her job. She pushes her students and her athletes toward success. I commend her for her hard work.The only thing I see wrong with her is some favoratism toward certain players on the volleyball team. Other than that she is probably the best.
Dear Intellectual Individual:
The excessive amount of intellect you hold is clearly displayed in your note. Your inability to express yourself effectively without the use of profanity is second to none.
I would say instead of proclaiming “intellectualism” on the internet, you should spend a bit more time with a grammar book.
screw all this people kepp on steeling all of my yard sign, and some of my neighbors too
Somebody stole your neighbors?
I see in the stuart wipe this week the union rep responded to Arnies so called letter of last week. I too would like to know what Arnie is afraid of if a union is in place for these hard working citizens/taxpayers of our communities. They pay the taxes for this new school unlike Arnie who takes his to Ankeny. What is he so worried about? Afraid he will have to treat the support staff with respect like he pretnds to do with current staff. As always Arnie is joke!!!!
Is is just a few that want the union or the majority?
The teachers I talked to, did not want or see the need for the union. It was just a few that wanted it.
yeah yard signs are going missing all over town and we need to do something about it
dr dick aka arnie needs to pull his head out. He has no respect for anyone and the only reason people don’t want the union is because they are his puppets. The entire school board are his puppets i have been to school board meetings when he screams at people for asking a simple question and the only reason he don’t want a union is because he will have to show respect and he can’t do it he would rather run people in the dirt.
Arnie has no respect for anyone and the only reason people don’t want the union is because they are his puppets. The entire school board are his puppets I have been to school board meetings where he has screamed at people for asking simple questions. The only reason he don’t want the union is because he would be forced to show respect and he can’t do it he would rather run people in the dirt. Could someone tell me why we are paying someone who is so disrespectful so much money and on top of it paying him for mileage allowance back and forth to and from ANKENY everyday when his agreement when we hired him was that he would move to the district when his son graduated.
The American people fail to realize that unions were the downfall of the majority of the American companies. It has no place in the school, but as with most of America socialists are everywhere.
shut the fuck up douchebag